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Jeanne posted 02-15-2004 04:30 PM ET(US)
Hi all... (am still looking for a second tabletop mixer for the shop; I had been considering another 6 qt KA but wanted to know about the Kenwood/DeLonghi 7 qt); does anyone have a Viking 7 qt mixer? From first glance, the bowl has a handle (an advantage over the DeLonghi, which has no handle) the disadvantage is the price ($500). At that price point, I might as well just buy a 10 or 12 qt Hobart - but those don't fit the "easily moveable" category! Any comments, reviews, etc. will be appreciated. Thanks, Jeanne
scott123 posted 02-15-2004 09:28 PM ET(US)
I've been scouring the web for any info on mixers for a few weeks now. Apparently the Viking mixer is brand new to the market. I keep finding people curious about the Viking but I have yet to find anyone that owns one. Hopefully this forum will have someone who does.
As far as new 6 qt KAs, as far as I can tell, just about everyone I've spoken to has bad things to say about the home version. As far as the commercial version goes, it's gets slightly better press, but the reviews are far from glowing (switch problems). It seems like the quality of KA has dropped over the years.
The only machines that I hear consistently good things about are the Hobarts.
Here some links to mixer discusions:
http://www.cheftalkcafe.com/forums/showthread.php?s=6eb7003c507eda2fa058a642911776ce&threadid=11127
http://www.cheftalkcafe.com/forums/showthread.php?s=6eb7003c507eda2fa058a642911776ce&threadid=11040
http://webfoodpros.com/discus/messages/241/2307.html?
http://webfoodpros.com/discus/messages/241/2581.html?
http://forums.chef2chef.net/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=general&Number=88770&page=&view=&sb=&o=&fpart=1&vc=1
http://forums.chef2chef.net/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=general&Number=87638&Forum=All_Forums&Words=kitchenaid&Match=Or&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=87327&Search=true#Post87638
http://www.chefjob.com/food/Forum1/HTML/002277.html
Also, in addition to these threads, in his new book, Gear for Your Kitchen, Alton Brown has a lot to say about mixers.
Jeanne posted 02-16-2004 02:21 PM ET(US)
Hi! Thanks for the pointers to those sites. I've had a commercial 6 qt KA for the last few years (I can't remember exactly when I got it) and it gets daily use (for anywhere from 2-8 hours depending on the day of the week) and I've never had any problems with it. A friend of mine has the 325? watt model and it is not as reliable a workhorse as the one I've got (the 525 watt commercial version). The only real advantage to another KA is that I've got extra bowls and beaters already.
scott123 posted 02-17-2004 07:39 PM ET(US)
Even after weeks of research, I'm no where near a decision on a new mixer.
One thing I noticed on the KAs. I remember a while back looking at a KA box and seeing "made in the USA". The KA boxes now say "assembled in the USA". The problems associated with the new KAs could be related to a shift to Asian manufacturers for the parts.
If you do decide on a KA, I'd recommend finding a used one about the same age as the one you've got.
shepherdess posted 02-19-2004 11:18 AM ET(US)
I have the 6 Qt KA 525 Prof series mixer and it is great. There were problems when they first came out and they corrected them. In a post way back I listed a letter to look for in the Serial # on the box which indicates the improved machine. I was looking to buy one at the time, but was hesitant due to the reviews, but KA advised corrections and I could be assured by looking for the letter or digit on the unit (I can't remember now).
Hobart man posted 10-09-2004 06:41 AM ET(US)
I recently purchased a hobart n-50 mixer and I have to say that if you are not a professional cook you can overmix very quickly with this machine. After having a kitchenAid model 4-c given to me by my grandmother and baking since I was 8 years old I have used the k-5a which I liked. I bought a professional 6 which I could not stand because it did not deliver consistant results. But I have to say that if you can afford the hobart machine buy it. It produces consistant results everytime. But it does it very quickly. It is a truely commercial machine and I throughly love it. As for the viking machine though I have not seen it I did see the video on it from the web site for viking. It is my determination that if you are a household cook preparing foods now and then the mixer should be ok for you, but keep in mind it is a household machine only; not for commercial use.
Jeanne posted 10-09-2004 09:40 PM ET(US)
Well, I ended up buying the Viking a week or so ago. It's ok. Very loud, much louder than the KA 6qt but this is a 1000 watts vs the KA's 525. On the plus side: easy to move and carry, very strong motor, easy to clean the whip. Not so plus side: Noise, dial came off the first time I touched it and a spring popped out. Definitely didn't inspire confidence, but it is ok and I'll probably learn to like it. Re: did I have to change my mixing techniques, etc... not really. I was used to the KA6 so this isn't too far a leap - but you do have to watch it so as not to overbeat things. Would I buy it again? Probably; but boy is it noisy. Worse than having the dishwasher on at home while you're on the phone!!
BAM25177 posted 11-30-2004 06:37 PM ET(US)
Hi,
Don’t want to be intrusive, but which do you prefer the KA or the Viking. I’m a cooking/baking freak and really interested in what’s out there.
Brenton A. McCuskey
P.S. the main reason why the Hobart’s are so reliable, quiet, and consistent, is because they are driven by a single speed motor which prevents the possibility of the motor running to fast and overheating. All other smaller have a variable speed motor that can run too fast if not adjusted properly. But the fixed speed motor had to go when shrinking the mixer because the gears needed for the fixed speed motor would be costly, heavy, and big.
Best wishes with your new mixer!
BAM25177 posted 11-30-2004 06:38 PM ET(US)
I love my school's hobbart! It's an awesome machine!
Jeanne posted 11-30-2004 09:03 PM ET(US)
Well, after a few more weeks, I've learned to hate the Viking and I've actually taken it off the counter. It is just too loud and not much better than the KA 6 qt. (Stuff at the very bottom doesn't get well mixed IMHO). I've been very lucky, apparently, with my KA 6 qt; if I had the same number of problems as others have had, I would be the proud owner of a 10 qt Hobart by now. I probably will be at some point in the future, but for now, I just regret buying the Viking. Four people that I know of have had problems - broken wires on the whip and two have burned out. If you're thinking about a Viking, buy an Electrolux instead. Or even the DeLonghi (but it doesn't have a handle on the bowl, which is why I didn't buy it...)
Brad333 posted 11-30-2004 11:14 PM ET(US)
What a great forum. Has anyone heard of the Wolfgang Puck mixer? Any opinions or experience with it? http://www.hsn.com/cnt/prod/default.aspx?pfid=105477&club_id=105477&sz=5&sf=QC0024&rdr=1&cm_mmc=Portal*Yahoo*Yahoo-DF*qc0024
BAM25177 posted 12-01-2004 10:48 PM ET(US)
I've herad that it's made by the same people that make the Viking mixer. (kenwood)
riv posted 12-28-2004 01:57 PM ET(US)
has anyone used a "Bosch" mixer? I'm seriously looking for the best mixer.
gospelpat posted 01-04-2004 04:38 AM ET(US)
Hi,
One of the mixers we own is a Wolfgang Puck hand mixer with 3 beaters. I don't know if it mixes any better than a regular hand mixer. But its OK. Bought it because of the mixer being different. We don't do alot of baking - so we really don't use any of our three mixers very often. Which includes a stand mixer and two hand-held mixers.
Saw a Viking mixer on one of the television shows tonight. Had never seen one before. Was very happy to find out some details on it and others that were discussed. Thanks.
robeezee3 posted 09-24-2004 09:07 PM ET(US)
Now, in the year 2006, I purchased a DeLonghi 7 Qt mixer (980 watts) and a Hobart 5 Qt.
Both work equally well, but the constant 1750 RPM speed of the Hobart motor (quiet, and very even torque at any of the three speeds) has made it my favorite.
Mind you, the Delonghi was about $400. and the Hobart was about $1400. It is ginmetal gray and quite beautiful. At 40 lbs, you should only consider if you plan to leave this mixer out on the counter.
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Author	Topic: Viking 7 qt mixer
Jeanne	posted 02-15-2004 04:30 PM ET(US) Hi all... (am still looking for a second tabletop mixer for the shop; I had been considering another 6 qt KA but wanted to know about the Kenwood/DeLonghi 7 qt); does anyone have a Viking 7 qt mixer? From first glance, the bowl has a handle (an advantage over the DeLonghi, which has no handle) the disadvantage is the price ($500). At that price point, I might as well just buy a 10 or 12 qt Hobart - but those don't fit the "easily moveable" category! Any comments, reviews, etc. will be appreciated. Thanks, Jeanne
scott123	posted 02-15-2004 09:28 PM ET(US) I've been scouring the web for any info on mixers for a few weeks now. Apparently the Viking mixer is brand new to the market. I keep finding people curious about the Viking but I have yet to find anyone that owns one. Hopefully this forum will have someone who does. As far as new 6 qt KAs, as far as I can tell, just about everyone I've spoken to has bad things to say about the home version. As far as the commercial version goes, it's gets slightly better press, but the reviews are far from glowing (switch problems). It seems like the quality of KA has dropped over the years. The only machines that I hear consistently good things about are the Hobarts. Here some links to mixer discusions: http://www.cheftalkcafe.com/forums/showthread.php?s=6eb7003c507eda2fa058a642911776ce&threadid=11127 http://www.cheftalkcafe.com/forums/showthread.php?s=6eb7003c507eda2fa058a642911776ce&threadid=11040 http://webfoodpros.com/discus/messages/241/2307.html? http://webfoodpros.com/discus/messages/241/2581.html? http://forums.chef2chef.net/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=general&Number=88770&page=&view=&sb=&o=&fpart=1&vc=1 http://forums.chef2chef.net/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=general&Number=87638&Forum=All_Forums&Words=kitchenaid&Match=Or&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=87327&Search=true#Post87638 http://www.chefjob.com/food/Forum1/HTML/002277.html Also, in addition to these threads, in his new book, Gear for Your Kitchen, Alton Brown has a lot to say about mixers.
Jeanne	posted 02-16-2004 02:21 PM ET(US) Hi! Thanks for the pointers to those sites. I've had a commercial 6 qt KA for the last few years (I can't remember exactly when I got it) and it gets daily use (for anywhere from 2-8 hours depending on the day of the week) and I've never had any problems with it. A friend of mine has the 325? watt model and it is not as reliable a workhorse as the one I've got (the 525 watt commercial version). The only real advantage to another KA is that I've got extra bowls and beaters already.
scott123	posted 02-17-2004 07:39 PM ET(US) Even after weeks of research, I'm no where near a decision on a new mixer. One thing I noticed on the KAs. I remember a while back looking at a KA box and seeing "made in the USA". The KA boxes now say "assembled in the USA". The problems associated with the new KAs could be related to a shift to Asian manufacturers for the parts. If you do decide on a KA, I'd recommend finding a used one about the same age as the one you've got.
shepherdess	posted 02-19-2004 11:18 AM ET(US) I have the 6 Qt KA 525 Prof series mixer and it is great. There were problems when they first came out and they corrected them. In a post way back I listed a letter to look for in the Serial # on the box which indicates the improved machine. I was looking to buy one at the time, but was hesitant due to the reviews, but KA advised corrections and I could be assured by looking for the letter or digit on the unit (I can't remember now).
Hobart man	posted 10-09-2004 06:41 AM ET(US) I recently purchased a hobart n-50 mixer and I have to say that if you are not a professional cook you can overmix very quickly with this machine. After having a kitchenAid model 4-c given to me by my grandmother and baking since I was 8 years old I have used the k-5a which I liked. I bought a professional 6 which I could not stand because it did not deliver consistant results. But I have to say that if you can afford the hobart machine buy it. It produces consistant results everytime. But it does it very quickly. It is a truely commercial machine and I throughly love it. As for the viking machine though I have not seen it I did see the video on it from the web site for viking. It is my determination that if you are a household cook preparing foods now and then the mixer should be ok for you, but keep in mind it is a household machine only; not for commercial use.
Jeanne	posted 10-09-2004 09:40 PM ET(US) Well, I ended up buying the Viking a week or so ago. It's ok. Very loud, much louder than the KA 6qt but this is a 1000 watts vs the KA's 525. On the plus side: easy to move and carry, very strong motor, easy to clean the whip. Not so plus side: Noise, dial came off the first time I touched it and a spring popped out. Definitely didn't inspire confidence, but it is ok and I'll probably learn to like it. Re: did I have to change my mixing techniques, etc... not really. I was used to the KA6 so this isn't too far a leap - but you do have to watch it so as not to overbeat things. Would I buy it again? Probably; but boy is it noisy. Worse than having the dishwasher on at home while you're on the phone!!
BAM25177	posted 11-30-2004 06:37 PM ET(US) Hi, Don’t want to be intrusive, but which do you prefer the KA or the Viking. I’m a cooking/baking freak and really interested in what’s out there. Brenton A. McCuskey P.S. the main reason why the Hobart’s are so reliable, quiet, and consistent, is because they are driven by a single speed motor which prevents the possibility of the motor running to fast and overheating. All other smaller have a variable speed motor that can run too fast if not adjusted properly. But the fixed speed motor had to go when shrinking the mixer because the gears needed for the fixed speed motor would be costly, heavy, and big. Best wishes with your new mixer!
BAM25177	posted 11-30-2004 06:38 PM ET(US) I love my school's hobbart! It's an awesome machine!
Jeanne	posted 11-30-2004 09:03 PM ET(US) Well, after a few more weeks, I've learned to hate the Viking and I've actually taken it off the counter. It is just too loud and not much better than the KA 6 qt. (Stuff at the very bottom doesn't get well mixed IMHO). I've been very lucky, apparently, with my KA 6 qt; if I had the same number of problems as others have had, I would be the proud owner of a 10 qt Hobart by now. I probably will be at some point in the future, but for now, I just regret buying the Viking. Four people that I know of have had problems - broken wires on the whip and two have burned out. If you're thinking about a Viking, buy an Electrolux instead. Or even the DeLonghi (but it doesn't have a handle on the bowl, which is why I didn't buy it...)
Brad333	posted 11-30-2004 11:14 PM ET(US) What a great forum. Has anyone heard of the Wolfgang Puck mixer? Any opinions or experience with it? http://www.hsn.com/cnt/prod/default.aspx?pfid=105477&club_id=105477&sz=5&sf=QC0024&rdr=1&cm_mmc=PortalYahooYahoo-DF*qc0024
BAM25177	posted 12-01-2004 10:48 PM ET(US) I've herad that it's made by the same people that make the Viking mixer. (kenwood)
riv	posted 12-28-2004 01:57 PM ET(US) has anyone used a "Bosch" mixer? I'm seriously looking for the best mixer.
gospelpat	posted 01-04-2004 04:38 AM ET(US) Hi, One of the mixers we own is a Wolfgang Puck hand mixer with 3 beaters. I don't know if it mixes any better than a regular hand mixer. But its OK. Bought it because of the mixer being different. We don't do alot of baking - so we really don't use any of our three mixers very often. Which includes a stand mixer and two hand-held mixers. Saw a Viking mixer on one of the television shows tonight. Had never seen one before. Was very happy to find out some details on it and others that were discussed. Thanks.
robeezee3	posted 09-24-2004 09:07 PM ET(US) Now, in the year 2006, I purchased a DeLonghi 7 Qt mixer (980 watts) and a Hobart 5 Qt. Both work equally well, but the constant 1750 RPM speed of the Hobart motor (quiet, and very even torque at any of the three speeds) has made it my favorite. Mind you, the Delonghi was about $400. and the Hobart was about $1400. It is ginmetal gray and quite beautiful. At 40 lbs, you should only consider if you plan to leave this mixer out on the counter.